Picking up where we left off with the emails pertaining to winter meetings. A trade was purposed (by an anonymous blogger) which entailed sending H. Matsui to Seattle for R. Sexson (which in my mind is just luda-crisss)!!!
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A trade for Sexson would be stupid. The last thing the Yankees need is another guy to bat .250 with 30 HR's, and strikes out almost 200 times a year. Matsui is a consistent .300 hitter and will hit his share of HR's as well. I'm not a huge fan of Melky Cabrarra taking over left field in place of Matsui yet. Keep Matsui, and keep Sexson in Seattle.
I fully agree with all points stated. Marcus, Matsui has to stay in NY plan and simple and to move him for Sexson is an ill-advised trade and to even bring up the notion of such repugnance is beyond me!!!
Sexson is nothing more than more "bling bling" for the new Yankee fan. We don't need another .220 hitter who strikes out 180+ times. We need youth and pitching. The new yankee fan just wants an all start team and doesn't care whether they win or lose. This is not a formula for success (see '96-'00).
Yankee fan wants his team "chromed out"
Yes it is true that the younger Yankee fan has been spoiled, how we so often forget the seasons of 90 losses or more.
Reality is if they are to get any better, and that is actually winning an LDS, they need youth pitching and plenty of it. Why not, instead of talking about trading for guys like Sexson, lets talk about trading for youth pitching???
As long as we have Giambi soaking up big dollars he can play in a few games at first and then lets see what happens between Phillips and Phelps!!! There is youth right there that we can sit tight with, you never know when another nice role player can come about.
Well put comment Nuch, and thus the reason for extending this web blog to yourself for the provided evidence that winning is not about all the money!!!
Actually, I think all of those teams had pretty high payrolls with the exception of the Marlins and perhaps the Angels . . . the others, while not the Yanks or Sawx, were among the highest in the league I believe . . .
Put me on record now as saying Matsui for Sexson would be a great move . . . :)
RomoCop (who had a bad day yesterday),
You are not getting it, how would this be a great move???
Besides on opening day you would not be able to yell out profane langauge to fellow fans while slipping in a bad japanese accent uttering the words "I want one fast-a ball...throw me one fast-a ball!!! When Hideki is up...
And remember, while the disparity wasn't there like it is today, the Yanks did have the highest payroll every year from '96 to '00 (except in '98 when they were second) . . .
Listen to this JUNK! Its not about the money...its about the TEAM! As I said spend all the money you want...but don't go out and get 38 year old former all stars. When Cano and Wang need to get paid you pay them cause their your guys. But as for these cash money crybabies, we don't need the likes of Gary Sheffield, Randy Johnson, etc. As for these other aging superstars...Mussina, Giambi, etc...thanks for the memories now beat it! You have to create a team not a home run derby.
Okay, as a Yankee fan I do have to admit that I am always looking to go out and get the best player available. IE A-Rod. I was all about that trade, and to be honest, i'm still glad he's a Yankee. The difference is that ARod is, and still may be considered the best player in the game. Sexson however, does not have the "best player in the game" label. Look at ARods "low" numbers since he has been a Yankee. I'll take that every year, and all other fans would too. Sexson's numbers are not nearly that and we need people to get on base for ARod, not try to outhit him with HR's.
schof: You missed our e-mail debate(s) . . . this whole thing got started when I was checking out the Mariners roster for pitching, thinking that Seattle would embrace a guy like Matsui and we could take their ace . . . I soon realized that their "ace" was Gil Meche who was already a free agent that the Yanks didn't want; from there I noticed that they had Richie Sexson who is younger than Matsui, carries the same price tag, plays a better first base than Giambi, and provides essentially the same offensive numbers as Hideki . . . I figured we could plug him into first, let the Giambino DH, and give the left field job to Cabrera . . . we get younger without sacrificing anything but a left handed stick that really hasn't been all that clutch in the playoffs since Game 4 of the 2004 ALCS . . . don't get me wrong, I like Matsui, and certainly don't mind the idea of him staying in left, but a trade for Sexson seems like a good idea . . . would I rather trade him for good, young pitching? Sure, but I'm not sure what is out there to take a chance on . . .
schof: At least one other person likes A-Rod . . . Otto and agentorange ain't nuttin' but playa hatin' . . .
Richie Sexson is garbage. The fact that the Yankees would even entertain a trade is beyond my comprehension. Yeah, that's exactly what they need in the Bronx, another non-athletic stiff who can't get out of his own way. Lest we forget, Mark Texiera will be a free agent after this year. Plus the Yanks just picked some wetback off of a raft coming from
Cuba who plays first base. Hell, you can pay those guys in sweatpants and Cheese Doodles (both are very scarce in third-world countries). Sexson is the least appealing option for the Bombers, and he smells weird.
I agree there JAAAY....TEEEE!!!
Great reference to sweatpants and cheese doodles!!!
I can see your point Marcus but to me there are better ways for us to cover our first base needs than getting rid of Matsui who is a big contributor to the team's success when in fact they are successful....
It’s not about the payroll. It’s about finding the right players that gel with one another and doing your best to keep them there and not quit on them if they don’t perform right away. It’s also about building and having confidence in your farm system bringing young players up that have been playing well in the minors and not abandoning them. Get rid of the old guy in the way of a good prospect rather then just getting rid of the prospect because there is simply no room for him. Being a Yankee minor league prospect these days is a joke and guys who in the minors in the Yankees system shouild have no confidence the organization they grew up with will ever stick with them and not trade them or will even call them up (constantly obtaining players way past their prime blocks young talent). Hence, the Yankees have been accused of hiring hired guns on every position on the diamond year after year. Sure there is Jeter, Posada, Pettitte, Bernie, Rivera that were all brought up through the system but that hasn’t happened in a LONG time and look what they’ve done (4 championships)… not sure why they abandoned the formula of bringing up guys from within the organization but somewhere along the lines they got very greedy…. Hence, Evil Empire. There’s not one team in baseball that can compete with them regarding available money for salary expense. It’s not the Yankees that are wrong. I don’t blame the Yankees for using a broken system to their advantage; it doesn’t mean I have to like it though. It’s the way baseball is set up and this whole revenue sharing thing (that doesn’t work) that is wrong? If revenues were truly “shared” wouldn’t every team have a similar salary expenditure cap? Steinbrenner and the Yankee organization is merely just one owner and one team in the MLB… profits from merchandise sales should go to the MLB and dispersed evenly throughout the league, not to the individual organization. Yanks did a good job in their trades and in the offseason so far and I'd stick with what they have right now and keep going year after year with a combination of youth and veterans. 1st base will be just fine and their lineup is already loaded with great players (including ARod). You really don't need an All-Star at every position and at every spot in the batting order to have a winning formula. I like busting you spoiled paper Yankee fans about the need for a true power 1st baseman but it's really not needed. Combo of Phillips and others will be fine. What the Yanks need is quality pitching, especially in the bullpen. Getting back Mussina was a good move.
One more thing, what's Don Mattingly doing listed under Boys Bowling for the Southern Tier Youth Travel League under results on page 3D of todays sports page???
BuffBill sounds like a disgruntled Blue Jays fan. :)
Ahh BuffBill could you have written anymore on this topic...I feel like you need to be arguing your case in front of a panel of distinguished professors...christ that’s like a doctoral dissertation you wrote there!!!
Well BuffBill thats just like Marcus calling up a nationally sindicated sports talk radio show and going...
" Yeah you know the right fielda for the Yankees is pretty good there, you know that Baba Buie(sp?), he is pretty good there...[click]"
Usia....ahhh...I mean BuffBill (sorry). Some well argued points in your thesis paper you wrote, however:
1. You did not include bringing up guys like Cano and Melky along with Phillips and that helped them win the AL East last year. I think the tide has changed with the farm system, Cashman understands the value of keeping guys in house and you will see a big shift there.
2. I don't want to hear about the 'Evil Empire' anymore, Boston is gone above the realm now in spending and they can compete, when they want to, for guys..example Matsuska(i) whatever his name is!!!
3. You are correct that an all star is not needed at every position, I am not one of those "paper Yankee fans" you are referring to because I believe the formula is youthful pitching be it in the rotation, bull pen, where ever we can get youth in pitching is a plus. Youth pitching coupled with solid veterans that can get to 15+ wins is a plus as well with Mussina and now Pettite.
if they were serious about winning they'd hand randy johnson a check for the entire season and tell him thanks for nothing, now go home and spend our money, just don't show up here and ask to pitch.
Total waste of money
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